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Robert Member 
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Is there any way of deleting a members registration without banning?
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Di Customer Service Rep. 
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Robert wrote: Is there any way of deleting a members registration without banning? admin panel -->users tab find the group the member is in, then search for the members name, click the box to the left of the members name then scroll up to the line where you see the move, delete, help click the delete button and the member is gone Jim and I dont like to delete members (even back in our phpbb days) because it leaves too many "holes" in the database, so to speak (kind of like when your computer is fragmented)
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Robert Member
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Does that cause a problem Di? Because if it does I would stick to banning.
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Jim Administrator 
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I only delete people with no posts these days. The software does have the ability to delete properly, it's just something I'm paranoid about from the old phpBB days. Deleting used to have ill effects. We move all the posts to a secret hiding place then just ban the member.
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Robert Member
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That's where my deletions come from Jim, people who don't post.
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Jim Administrator
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Then it should be perfectly fine  When they have posted a lot and you delete a few of them the threads they have been in start to not make sense also.
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Robert Member
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99.9999% of deletions are non posters and I have only ever deleted one member who was a regular poster and I moved all his topics to our Archive section. His posts in other peoples topics were easily deleted if they referred back to his own but otherwise they were left alone. It hasn't been a problem so far.
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Mag License Holder 
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I am confused about this deleting members. When I used the other board I was told to go to advanced/prune users as that wiped out all information on that user. I see we still have that on Ultra as well as delete, so which is the best one to use please? Normally the ones we delete are people who join specifically to post about a product or the likes. Their post is deleted as soon as one of us sees it and then we prune the user. Some guidance would be appreciated please.
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wingnutter Forever Learning 
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If you delete someone with posts, their posts will all show "Guest".
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wingnutter Forever Learning
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Mag wrote: ...Normally the ones we delete are people who join specifically to post about a product or the likes. Their post is deleted as soon as one of us sees it and then we prune the user. That's the way I do it as well Mag, and no problems.
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martin_wynne Licence Holder 
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wingnutter wrote: If you delete someone with posts, their posts will all show "Guest". Hi Steve, If you delete a member and leave their posts in place, you could be heading for big legal trouble. You are in effect continuing to publish their copyright material, and if you have removed them from the board against their wishes they might very well complain that you are doing that without their permission. The same applies to locked topics and time-limits on editing -- an aggrieved member could say that you have permission to continue publishing his copyright material only as long as he still has access to edit it. Unilaterally changing the access conditions after the event could be bad news. A member could say that had he known that would happen, he would not have contributed the material in the first place, with the implied permission to publish it. I've never locked a topic after members have posted to it or time-limited editing. It's an outrageous thing to do to folks who have contributed their content to your site. The only safe thing to do is delete. Posts, topics, members. Always delete. regards, Martin.
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Jim Administrator
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Hi Martin, I am real sensitive about the "legal" aspect of internet forums in particular, I have always felt "hogwash". I have had so many people scream "lawsuit" and "I'm going to sue you for (insert BS here)" I say bring it on. If anyone wants to spend the thousands it takes to try to sue me over something I typed in a browser... let them waste their money. I don't believe in it and think the world is extremely screwed up because of these lawyers that promote suing families and businesses if you stub your toe on a loose brick in their driveway. Now if someone takes an amount of money and doesn't provide product or service in the amount lets say.... a couple thousand dollars USD perhaps a lesson is needed. If I get angry and call someone an **s, hurt their bloated ego so they go to their drinking buddy that just happens to be a lawyer to soothe their ego... I'd rather invite them to my front door so I can talk to them face to face.
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martin_wynne Licence Holder
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Jim wrote: Hi Martin, Hi Jim, I'm not sure what you are trying to say to me there.  If you publish a web site and invite others to contribute to it, I think you should respect their copyright in the material they submit. While they remain as members you can very reasonably assume you have their permission to publish it. Otherwise they would have no reason or means to post it. But if you unilaterally change the terms of their access to the site, it's not at all clear that you still have permission to publish their material. I think it would be much safer not to, and to delete it. Generally claims for copyright infringement are a waste of time and effort unless the claimant can show quantifiable financial damage as a result, but you don't know if they can do that and it's safer not to be in that position by simply deleting the content. You seem to be discussing a completely different situation, in which a member complains about someone else's post being published on your site, not their own posts. regards, Martin.
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Sakura License Holder
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I think we need something like phpBB and the other softwares have, and just have like a "forum rules and TOS" or something. The moderators and admins have the right to edit, delete, and move your posts. And then it has all that. But it could be edited when you used vBulletin.
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wingnutter Forever Learning
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martin_wynne wrote: Hi Steve, Good point, but I wonder would they prefer to be left visible as a "Banned member" for all the world to see?
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Jim Administrator
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martin_wynne wrote: Jim wrote:LOL it started as "hi martin" but ended up an early morning half asleep rant on lawsuit happy people that cost us all plenty. It's destroying the USA, I don't know about across the pond.Hi Martin, Nothing really directed toward you, just a rant. Carry on-
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wingnutter Forever Learning
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We don't think that far ahead over here Jim, the lawsuit bug hasn't crossed the pond yet.
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Mag License Holder
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It must have skipped Ireland then Steve as it certainly has reached England LOL
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wingnutter Forever Learning
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I'll be hoping it doesn't cross the Irish Sea Mag.
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