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martin_wynne Licence Holder
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Robert wrote: So how do I go about uploading pictures to Data 1 Martin? Hi Bob, 1. Go to http://yourmodelrailway.net/cpanel 2. Login with the details Jim provided. 3. Click the File Manager icon. That's 1st column, 2nd row. 4. Click on the folder symbol to the left of "public_html". 5. Click "Create new folder" link on 2nd line. 6. At the top right of the screen a box appears. Enter the name for the folder you want to keep your pictures in. I suggest keeping it short to save typing errors -- you will be typing it a lot. I suggest "img" (without the quotes and always all lower case). Don't call it "images" because you already have a folder with that name as part of the WowUltra software. (This is the disadavantage of having your forum in the root folder). 7. Click the Create button. 8. Back over on the left, click on the folder symbol to the left of "img". 9. Click the black Up Arrow. 10. Twelve Browse buttons appear and 12 boxes. That means you can upload up to 12 files in one go. 11. Click a Browse button and navigate on your computer to find the file you want to upload. 12. When you have done as many files as you want, click the "Upload" button. (When you come back to cpanel at a later date, omit nos. 5-7 above.) If the file was called happysnap.jpg the URL link for it will be:
and for use on your own forum you can reduce that to just
which is a lot easier to enter and read than the long Photobucket URLs. regards, Martin. Last edited on Mon Aug 18th, 2008 03:52 pm by martin_wynne |
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Robert Member
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I have uploaded a few to get the feel of it Martin. The only down side I can see is that, unlike photobucket, you can only view what files you have one at a time and the titles would have to be very meaningful else you would forget what the pictures would be about. Can you have all different folders with different pictures in them?
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martin_wynne Licence Holder
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Robert wrote: I have uploaded a few to get the feel of it Martin. The only down side I can see is that, unlike photobucket, you can only view what files you have one at a time and the titles would have to be very meaningful else you would forget what the pictures would be about. Can you have all different folders with different pictures in them? Hi Bob, Yes, you can create as many different folders as you like, providing each one has a unique name. You can also nest them within one another, just as on your own computer. Stick to all lower case names throughout if you don't want mysterious errors later from mis-typing. The File Manager in cpanel is very primitive. I gave you instructions for that because I know you have it there and the basic steps are easy to describe. There is masses of better FTP client software available, some of it free, which allows you to view and edit the files, upload entire folders, synchronise with your own computer and lots more. But it's rather more than I can explain in a single message! I suggest you try FileZilla, which is free, and study the Help files at: http://wiki.filezilla-project.org/Using Alternatively, Jim might have a suggestion for FTP software. If you use the same as most folks on here, it's easier to ask for help if you get stuck. regards, Martin.
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Robert Member
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I use CuteFP Martin and will have a look with that. Bob
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martin_wynne Licence Holder
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Robert wrote: It's your example of the postcard that I like Martin. Each of the pictures has a title over it and the mouseover text is what I would like to appear if possible Hi Bob, I have now finalized the code to give you the expanding pictures alongside the side boxes as you wanted. I have used some of your pictures http://www.templot.com/wowultra On the right-hand column the first two boxes are nominally the same. However in the first box, the images are simply linked from your web site and resized in the browser. In the second box, I downloaded that image (600 pixels wide) and saved two copies. Then I did a proper resampled resize in a photo editor (e.g. Irfanview -- free) to make the two images (162 and 400 wide). And then uploaded them to the forum web space. You can see that the image quality is much better that way. Against that is the extra work involved. I see that you now have a great many side pictures on your site. You don't have to convert them all at once, you can intermingle the new expanding boxes with all the existing ones if you wish. Then perhaps convert them one at a time to expanding versions as time permits. For example, you can see that I have included two of your existing boxes among the others in the right-hand column. Let me know if you want to go ahead with this. I can then post the code for you to copy, colour-coded so that you know what to edit as required. regards, Martin.
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Robert Member
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Just one thing Martin. The bigger pictures on the LH are reproduced to the right of the smaller picture. Which is fine but on the RH side it means that people with lower screen resolutions have to scroll quite a way sideways. Not so good. Is it possible to make the picture appear to the left of the RH side pictures aned leave those on the LH side as they are? The lower screen resolutions are something I can do nothing about and are a fact of life that has to be taken into consideration. Last edited on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 05:32 pm by Robert |
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martin_wynne Licence Holder
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Robert wrote: Just one thing Martin. The bigger pictures on the LH are reproduced to the right of the smaller picture. Which is fine but on the RH side it means that people with lower screen resolutions have to scroll quite a way sideways. Not so good. Is it possible to make the picture appear to the left of the RH side pictures aned leave those on the LH side as they are? The lower screen resolutions are something I can do nothing about and are a fact of life that has to be taken into consideration. Hi Bob, I considered doing it the other way, but there is a problem. On a low resolution screen after clicking the small image, that image will disappear to the right, and it will be necessary to scroll over in order to click it again to restore the box to normal. I think it is more intuitive to follow the usual convention of expand forwards to the right, shrink backwards to the left. On a small screen it is only necessary to scroll once, and then you can work down the page looking at all the large pictures. More and more folks are getting larger screens, but you can't wait until every last one has done so. At some stage you must design for the majority, and those with older screens have to make do as best they can. My previous arrangement of having the large image below the small one didn't have these problems to the same extent, which is why I did it that way. But you said you wanted the large image at the side. regards, Martin.
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Robert Member
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On the LH side both pictures are on view without touching anything, perfect for everybody so if the RH side could be made to do the same then that would be great. By the way you don't have to click on the small picture to get rid of the big one as the large one has a closing cross in the usual place. Last edited on Mon Aug 25th, 2008 08:00 pm by Robert |
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Devans License Holder
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I would like that one that pops the pic on mouse over... of course I dont use a right side box, only left side.
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martin_wynne Licence Holder
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Hi Bob, I have tried a different tack. See what you think. At the top of the page to the left of the picture are now "show forum" and "hide forum" buttons. Clicking the "hide forum" button causes the central forum listings to vanish. Then on a narrow screen, the right-hand pictures can expand across almost to the left column. This means that the right-hand pictures can be visible without scrolling on screens down to 880 pixels wide. The vast majority of users are now on 1024 screens or above. For the many users on 1280 wide screens, this also means that both columns can be fully expanded at the same time and be visible with minimal scrolling. Clicking the "show forum" button restores the normal page. n.b. this is working on the front page only at present: http://www.templot.com/wowultra If you like the idea I can extend it to all the pages where the side columns appear, and find the best place for the "show forum" and "hide forum" buttons. p.s. rather late in the day, a further thought occurs. Is it necessary for the small image to remain visible alongside the large image? For it not to do so doubles the complexity of the code, but even so... Martin.
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Robert Member
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Martin you are really having a go at this and I appreciate it. Now then I think you are almost there but after looking at the larger pictures and going back to Show Forum the centre panel is thrown over to the left, leaving a large gap between the RH panel and the centre panel. Otherwise the concept is brilliant. The smaller picturtes showing aren't important one way or the other with this way of doing things so not worth spending more time on I wouldn't think. Going back to the test forum again I can't remember now whether the centre panel was over to the left before I started enlarging the pictures or not. By the way all my viewing is done at 1152 X 864, which is the most comfortable for me all round. Last edited on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 11:41 am by Robert |
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martin_wynne Licence Holder
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Robert wrote: Now then I think you are almost there but after looking at the larger pictures and going back to Show Forum the centre panel is thrown over to the left, leaving a large gap between the RH panel and the centre panel. Otherwise the concept is brilliant. The smaller picturtes showing aren't important one way or the other with this way of doing things so not worth spending more time on I wouldn't think. Hi Bob, I'm afraid you have lost me there. The default setting for tables in most browsers is "table-layout:auto;" which causes a table to widen if the content of the table cannot be fitted within the specified width. If the rendered area is then wider than the window width, the horizontal scroll bar appears. (The alternative setting is "table-layout:fixed;" which causes the page to be laid out strictly in accordance with the table width settings. This can dramatically increase rendering speed, but it means that any oversize content in table cells is cropped.) In this case the right-hand column is set to be aligned to the right-hand edge of the rendered area. The left-hand column is set to be aligned to the left-hand edge of the rendered area. The result is a gap in the middle if the window width is wider than the current total width of the columns. I can change the right-hand column to left-aligned (which is what I think you are asking for), but it might have some other effects. I will have a go and see. By the way all my viewing is done at 1152 X 864, which is the most comfortable for me all round. Is that a flat-screen monitor/laptop or a CRT? regards, Martin.
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Robert Member
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Hang on now Martin you have changed the layout since I last clicked on your dummy demonstration. There's nothin wrong with the placement now but I see you have moved the picture at the top of the forum to the left hand side and the show forum, hide forum buttons have gone and I now have expand all and shrink all buttons. I can't see anything wrong with that all no matter how I choose to view the side panel pictures, either en masse or picking one at a time. I would still like the hide forum show forum buttons though unless they interfere with the layout. I think what you have done is brilliant and does everything I want it to. It's a terrific choice to have I think with a picture heavy front page like mine. Last edited on Tue Aug 26th, 2008 03:52 pm by Robert |
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martin_wynne Licence Holder
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Robert wrote: Hang on now Martin you have changed the layout since I last clicked on your dummy demonstration. There's nothing wrong with the placement now but I see you have moved the picture at the top of the forum to the left hand side and the show forum, hide forum buttons have gone and I now have expand all and shrink all buttons. I can't see anything wrong with that all no matter how I choose to view the side panel pictures, either en masse or picking one at a time. I would still like the hide forum show forum buttons though unless they interfere with the layout. I think what you have done is brilliant and does everything I want it to. It's a terrific choice to have I think with a picture heavy front page like mine. Hi Bob, I was experimenting with the effect of the changes in different themes. Back to beige now. The "expand all" and "shrink all" buttons have been there all along, one set for each side column. There is also a "shrink page" (i.e. both columns at once) button at the bottom of the right-hand column. That needs changing because at present it also hides the forum listings. Martin.
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Robert Member
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It's gone all to pieces again Martin. The centre panel is off set again. It was perfect with the picture over to the left and just what I wanted, although I don't know if moving the picture had anything to do with improving things. Can you go back to that one?
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martin_wynne Licence Holder
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Robert wrote: It's gone all to pieces again Martin. The centre panel is off set again. It was perfect with the picture over to the left and just what I wanted, although I don't know if moving the picture had anything to do with improving things. Can you go back to that one? I'm lost, Bob. The only change I made earlier was to change to the Shades theme (which has the logo picture on the left). The "hide forum" feature isn't (yet) available in that theme. So in effect we are back to how it was yesterday, which you said was unsatisfactory for those with narrow screens. I've changed it to "Shades" again now. Is that what you want? Perhaps you are seeing something different from me? Could you post a screenshot when you have it exactly as you want it? (press PrintScreen* key, then Paste in a photo editor, then Save, then add attachment here). *near to F12 key. regards, Martin.
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Robert Member
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I think it must be the style that changes everything then Martin because today is the first time I have seen it in Shades. Anyway here is the screen image. Attachment: Screen.jpg (Downloaded 17 times)
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martin_wynne Licence Holder
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Hi Bob, Thanks for posting the screenshot. Which looks exactly as mine did, so I'm still very puzzled by your remark that I had a setting which worked perfectly for you. I can't see how that can be any different from the day before, which you said was unsatisfactory for users on narrow screens. The only two themes I have tried in the last few days are Shades (in Dark Yellow as your screenshot and I also tried Sand Harvest), and Beige. Anyway, I have made a few more changes, see what you think. There are now 3 buttons in the header, mouse over them to see what they do. Users on narrow screens should click the second button and then expand one side column at a time. n.b. this is still working only in Beige, and only on the front page: http://www.templot.com/wowultra regards, Martin. Last edited on Wed Aug 27th, 2008 10:42 am by martin_wynne |
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Robert Member
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Right Martin. Shades has been ok from the word go, it was beige that was giving me problems but not any more. You have fixed the problem I was having with the centre section being thrown off to one side and now it looks perfect. I only want it working on the front page Martin so that's no problem. The bit about the narrow screens is because the RH enlarged picture is shown to the right of the smaller one. Even at 1280 x 960 you still have to go sideways to get the complete RH large picture on the screen. Not much of course at that resolution but at the smaller resolutions it spoils the overall effect.
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martin_wynne Licence Holder
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Robert wrote:Shades has been ok from the word go, it was beige that was giving me problems but not any more. Hi Bob, I don't understand that at all, because here Shades and Beige were working exactly the same as far as the centre column was concerned. I have made a few more changes and added a "picture of the month" with mouse-over. Also moved the menu stuff out of the expanding side column. http://www.templot.com/wowultra regards, Martin.
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